Dark Horse tonight; Sovereignty; Unappealing; Term limits results; 1303; CU speakers; Concealed Carry Not

February 4, 2014 at 7:26 am

In This Issue From the Chair

Dark Horse tonight
Term limits results
CU speakers
Concealed Carry Not
Dark Horse tonight

We are hosting a “free fries” tonight at the Dark Horse Saloon (2922 Baseline)

Tuesday February 4 at 6 pm.

Just a social to meet other like-minded individuals.  We are trying to reach out to the CU crowd so if you know students who want to consume fries for free, let them know about this event.

Please come and make this kickoff a success so that others will want to come to our monthly evening social.

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In yet another attack on keeping us free people, Debbie Schum (our very own Libertarian guardian of freedom) reports on a bill that would give the Feds unfettered power to arrest people in Colorado.

Read the article and understand why I am a Libertarian rather than a Republican.


Debbie sent the following message to the Republican who sponsored the bill:
What exactly is your explanation for the story in the below link?! I think you owe everyone not only an explanation and an apology, but a withdrawal of this sleazy bill. Especially
if you have any hope at all of running for sheriff in Mesa County (which you should just withdraw your candidacy from). HOW DARE YOU?! So let’s hear your spin. RIGHT NOW, you gun grabbing jerk!
Debbie Schum

If only more people in the world were like Debbie.  But that’s our job, right?, to motivate people to actually do something.

Debbie, please let us know if and how Colorado GOP Senator Steve King responds.

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As you probably know, my arguments about term limits did not sway Judge Langer.  Cindy Domenico will be allowed to run for a third term – contrary to the plain language of the Colorado constitution.  Judge Langer’s reasoning is: A partial term is not a term.

I have decided not to appeal in the 3 days (now past) that according to CRS 1-1-113:
(3) The proceedings may be reviewed and finally adjudicated by the supreme court of this state, if either party makes application to the supreme court within three days after the district court proceedings are terminated, unless the supreme court, in its discretion, declines jurisdiction of the case. If the supreme court declines to review the proceedings, the decision of the district court shall be final and not subject to further appellate review.

There appears to be another, slower, and more deliberative appeals process.  I am investigating the cost and benefits of taking this route.

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I reached out to a scientific poll taking company to get the answer on the following question:
 How much would it cost to get the answer to the following question from your http://www.bouldercounty.org/doc/government/2011boccopinionsurvey.pdf survey:
I’d like a cross tab of yes/no v. Democrats/Republicans to questions 3.  (Question 3 is A ballot proposal to increase the maximum number of terms the Boulder County Commissioners
can serve in office from the current maximum of two … )

You can see the entire questionnaire here: http://www.bouldercounty.org/doc/government/2011boccopinionsurvey.pdf

I received an answer back and I found the answer very interesting:
Unfortunately I lost a variety of files when the office building I owned at the mouth of Boulder canyon was hit by a massive landslide off Flagstaff Mountain and split it two. So I’m not certain I could re-create those crosstabs.
But I did find just the “Yes” vote in a demographic chart I still have.

For R’s, the Yes vote on Q3 (Term limit for commissioners) was 19%; for D’s it was 50%; for U’s it was 33%.  Which means for R’s, 81% were opposed or undecided, as were 50% of the D’s and 77% of the U’s.  Hope that helps—no charge for that.

This gives me some very useful political information.  I thank Talmey-Drake for their kindness in providing an extremely timely answer.

Who knows, we might use Talmey-Drake in the future to find out how to frame our message of freedom to be maximally effective.

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As you all probably know, the voting bill (1303) rammed through the legislature last year by the County Clerks and the Democrats have created chaos.  To “correct” the chaos, the Clerks and Democrats have introduced another monster bill known as HB 1164.

Republicans in the legislature have proposed something quite reasonable: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25053639/gop-wants-colorados-new-election-law-put-two#ixzz2sIslg7Ze

Let’s see if the Democrats do what’s right.

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Bryan Griffin reports on a list of speakers at CU coming up in the next few weeks our group might be interested in:

e.g. Jonah Goldberg on Feb 25.

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Concealed Carry Not

For several years I have been struggling with the dilemma of whether to get a concealed carry permit (CCW).

The procedure is fairly simple ( https://www.bouldercounty.org/doc/sheriff/permitinfo.pdf  )

The reason for my struggle can be found in an article written by L. Neil Smith here:

“They” know about me, I’m sure.  But if you have kept your head down, maybe you should follow Mr. Smith’s advice and not get a CCW.

On the other hand, getting a CCW is something like registering as a Libertarian.  If enough people do so the politics changes in the direction of freedom.

It’s a conundrum for me.  My grandparents (on both sides of my family) died in Nazi concentration camps because they would not or could not defend themselves.  I don’t want that for my children.

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A reminder that our weekly

Libertarian Lunch
645 30th Street
Boulder 80303
will be held this Thursday at 12:30

This week’s topics:
Political controls on the exorbitantly priced local ambulance service (what are they? cui bono? who is responsible?)

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Ralph Shnelvar
Libertarian Party of Boulder County